Why do people keep blaming the insurance companies for whats wrong with health care?

In: Health Insurance

14 May 2010




There is no law forcing you to buy health insurance.

You can pay cash for your treatment then see for yourself why health insurance is so expensive.

Health insurance companies are businesses not a public service like so many Liberals seem to think.
fitchburgposse: Thats what hospitals charge not the insurance companies.
Wounded Duck: Health insurance companies work to LOWER costs. They demand lower priced services from medical providers an get it. They have no incentive to have higher costs because thay are the ones paying for it.





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27 Responses to Why do people keep blaming the insurance companies for whats wrong with health care?

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Thomas D

May 14th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

Insurance is for catastrophic things that might happen to you, not for coverage for everyday expenses.

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TEH TYME KITTEH ~pantheist~ ®

May 14th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

because thats what Nazi Pelosi has told them to say

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Albert The Fiscal Butcher

May 14th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

They’re thee ones who bring prices up…

But government is not the solution. There are better, CHEAPER, ways to fix the problem.

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The Pen is Mightier

May 14th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

Exactly, the leftists have undeserved self-entitlement issues.

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fitchburgposse

May 14th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

IV Hookup – $895
Morphine Drip – $795
Fluid for IV – $200
CAT Scan test – $1295
Jug to pee in – $25
Urine test – $200
Bed – $550 / hour

Having the doctor return 5 hours later and tell you he can’t find anything wrong – Priceless.

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heathersonline

May 14th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

according to a liberal on here whose question i just answered, the people who have insurance companies don’t seem to blame them for anything, b/c they are satisfied w/ their healthcare, and don’t even have to do the paperwork to file their own claims. they have no complaints almost 90% of the time

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Phil M

May 14th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

Probably for the same reason you continually ask this question…

They’re in bed with eachother more than you think (ins co’s, hospitals and state governments)

Put it to you this way, how come the same insurance company can make considerable profit in two different states with similar populations but wildly different regulatory policies? One state is more stringent and the other is more relaxed… I could tell you why if you’re really interested, but you wont like the answer.

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Chupate esa!

May 14th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

Selling black people was a business too…

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MI

May 14th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

The same reason people think the government has the constitutional right to step in on healthcare issues. It absolves them of (1) personal responsibility, (2) makes the government responsible for the healthcare system in this country (3) they feel they are doing something to help those who need it if they can make the government do it…again freeing them of having to take any action (4) ignorance.

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ruth

May 14th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

Well, there’s the difficulty of getting doctors to see you when you do not have insurance. It is not insurmountable, but you’re always worried you have cancer.

So, being a woman over 35, I go to a health clinic which is run by a Catholic hospital. They provide paps smear and breast screening on a sliding scale. This bill is unnecessary.

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PJ

May 15th, 2010 at 12:11 am

We need health insurance reform.

Turning down claims, raising premiums double digits every year, denying coverage, refusing to cover certain individuals, exclusions for pre-existing conditions – I have a problem with all of that.

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MikeGolf

May 15th, 2010 at 12:28 am

Because it is always easier to blame a faceless corporation than to take responsibility for yourself.

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Shuthrower

May 15th, 2010 at 12:56 am

Duh…Hello….Is anybody home??

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Wounded Duck

May 15th, 2010 at 1:15 am

Because they have run up costs and run down services. Health care and patient care are not the insurance companies bottom line. Money is.

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Jack Fessender

May 15th, 2010 at 2:14 am

Bingo.

You have the right to deny health insurance, and health insurance has the right to deny you coverage and treatment.

It’s a completely fair situation.

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Bush Tird Thermer

May 15th, 2010 at 2:37 am

B/C they are For Profit and because they work both sides of the fence.

Working both sides of a fence gives you ratcheting ability.

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Soltan

May 15th, 2010 at 2:56 am

“Economic woes had little effect on health insurance profits” during the last two recessions — in the early 1990s and the early 2000s — because the industry was able to raise prices more quickly than health costs were rising.”

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Onlooker

May 15th, 2010 at 3:31 am

Certainly the Democrats are not blaming insurance companies. Insurance companies play a major role in their healthcare reform plans. They are not proposing a plan that excludes insurance companies. That said, we need to address the fact that our health care costs at least 2x per capita as much as equally good healthcare plans in other countries. The current system is damaging our economy, so Democrats are trying to address this fact.

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Michael P in NJ

May 15th, 2010 at 4:13 am

Because they are the ones to blame. Health insurance is a business, not a public service? That’s the problem. Health care is not a privilege, it is a right.

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remoive me from answers

May 15th, 2010 at 4:32 am

Cause that’s what the POLITICIANS tell them to think. And, meanwhilst, back at the Saloon, in a darkened back room——–

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Grscraps

May 15th, 2010 at 5:06 am

First of all Health care is a necessity and we cannot live without health care. Some times people do not have the cash to pay for their treatments. Insurance companies are dirty! They allow you to pay your premiums for years and after you pay it they refuse to cover you and that is a breach of contract! They unfairly deny people coverage. When people are most in need they screw people, sick in bed.

Businesses must be regulated or else we have this problem, where insurance companies can do whatever the heck they want.

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Flip

May 15th, 2010 at 5:47 am

Most jobs require you to have either your own policy or a policy through them. So no, actually you don’t always have a choice.

Wow. Such an amazing amount of people who don’t know anything about how a lot of employers force certain healthcare on their employees….must be a lot of unemployed people here.

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Colbert Nation

May 15th, 2010 at 6:09 am

Health insurance companies are just middle men. We don’t want health insurance, we want health CARE. The business of health insurance companies is to make money for their investors, not to provide health care. In fact, the less health care they provide, the more money they make. There is something fundementally wrong with our health care system. And the Republicans only answer is to leave it alone.

The US is ruled by powerful interest groups who control politicians with campaign contributions. Our real rulers are an oligarchy of financial and military/security interests and AIPAC.
Our government has wasted $3,000,000,000,000–three thousand billion dollars–on two wars that have no benefit whatsoever for any American whose income does not derive from the military/security complex, about which five-star general President Eisenhower warned us years ago.

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mommanuke

May 15th, 2010 at 6:57 am

In a way, they actually weren’t the source of the increase. In the early 40’s, when employers were fighting tooth and nail for every employee, they started offering insurance as bait. Before that, everyone who saw a doctor or went to the hospital negotiated their own prices with doctors and hospitals. Once insurance companies came between the health care system and the patient, the negotiation became between the two without patients’ inputs. Then, prices began to go up, and more and more people were not able to negotiate prices down to a rate they could afford, so more and more people bought insurance. It was a vicious circle until we arrived at the state we are today, where the people who don’t have insurance can’t possibly afford to pay the prices we have, so they don’t pay and the system passes the costs on to the insurance companies which then pass them on to the insured.

Now we run into the problem of how much profit and at what cost to consumers is acceptable. They made 12.9 billion last year. But it was at the cost of people to whom they denied claims, people they refused to insure, etc. This only increases the number of people who cannot pay, which increases the prices, and increases the premiums for everyone else.

Health care should never have become a profit making operation. It wasn’t before the 40’s, and it’s become a nightmare ever since.

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oldbull

May 15th, 2010 at 7:07 am

I question the legitimacy of many of those who choose to mouth such rabid support for the Obama/Pelosi/Reed/Frank consortium. I feel qualified to do that since I question if the professed concerns of this group is in the best interest of the general populace or in their own self interest.

Health Insurance companies are in business, regardless of advertisements, to make money.
I no of their advertisements have I saw them deny the fact that if they do not make money they can not stay in business. However, for them to be made out as an unscrupulous scoundrel which takes your money and never offer any goods. If that was the case don’t you think that people would absolutely refuse to buy from them. Then another entity would step up to the plate and fill their void. That is the american way. Call it capitalism or what ever you wish but you can not deny that it made the US the greatest power ever known to mankind.

If you buy eggs from the corner grocer only to get home and find the carton is empty. Then would you continue to buy from that store or would you go to one who actually put eggs in their carton. If you continue to go to the first store, shame on you. Fortunately, we here in the United States have the option of shopping elsewhere. Under the porposed HR3200 your shopping option is gone.

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justagrandma

May 15th, 2010 at 7:21 am

You can pay cash? Great, I can’t pay cash, I can’t even pay for insurance and I’m not poor. Hospitals run a thousand or more per day, add on for using an operating room. recovery room and the rest they charge extra for.
Insurance costs $1360 for two people over sixty here and no, I’m not ashamed to say that I cannot afford that.

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mikea109

May 15th, 2010 at 7:42 am

Frankly, it’s the laws, courts, and the people themselves that have caused health care costs to rise so disproportionately. Particularly suites against doctors and hospitals for unfortunate miscues, that were so often unavoidable or unanticipated.

The increased cost to doctors for liability insurance is passed on to the hospitals and patients, just as in any other business.

The hesitation of politicians to put limits on suites, has been the single most reason for the rise in health care. The very idea, that a family of a life long smoker can sue and collect for premature death against doctors and hospitals, is completely insane, yet the courts allow this practice to continue.

It’s as you said, insurance is a business, a necessary business, to protect doctors, hospitals, and patients. It has become more and more expensive as irresponsible lawyers, courts, doctors, hospitals,and politicians, along with money grabbing opportunists, keep chipping away at the veneer of health care, and then wonder why it has become so expensive.

NHC will not stop this practice, it will go unabated under a government program, and simply passed on to the tax payer.

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