Where can I look at the government health insurance bill?

23 Apr 2010

I am looking for a website that has the exact wording in the bill. In PDF or other would be good. I want to get a copy of the bill.
Yes, I have been paying attention, but there is something I heard about it that I am looking to see if it is true. Can the government take money from your bank account without your consent?

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6 Responses to Where can I look at the government health insurance bill?

joemoser1948

April 23rd, 2010 at 8:26 pm

There is no single Bill, yet. Have you not been paying attention to the news? The committees are still working on various features of different versions.

John V

April 23rd, 2010 at 8:26 pm

Following is three pages of highlights of HR 3200, the Democrats’ Health Plan. And yes, I read it. If you would like to verify these highlights, go to http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text It’s over 1000 pages in length, so it takes a while to upload.

I don’t know about you, but the idea of some non-medical bureaucrat telling me what I can and can’t have in the way of medical care is downright frightening. Especially the part about euthanasia for us Senior Citizens.

PG 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

PG 30 Sec 123 of HC bill – THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments / benefits you get

PG 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill – YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

PG 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill – HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise

PG 58 HC Bill – Government will have real-time access to individuals finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!

PG 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations (ACORN).

PG 72 Lines 8-14 Government is creating an HC Exchange to bring private HC plans under Government control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill – Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specifications for Benefit Levels for Plans = The Government will ration your Healthcare!

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill – Government mandates linguistic appropriate services Example – Translation for illegal aliens

PG 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Government will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Government HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specifications of Benefit Levels 4 Plans AARP members – your Health care WILL be rationed

PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill – Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

PG 124 lines 24-25 HC Bill – No company can sue the Government on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Government Monopoly

PG 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill – Doctors / AMA – The Government will tell YOU what you can make.

PG 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE

PG 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

PG 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll $400,000 & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax (Fine) on all payroll

PG 150 Lines 9-13 Business with payroll between $251,000 & $400,000 who doesn’t provide public option pays 2 – 6% tax (Fine) on all payroll

PG 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed (Fined) 2.5% of income

PG 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NON-RESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)

PG 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (Government) will have access to ALL Americans financial / personal records

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC – “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that

PG 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected (More Rationed Care)

PG 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors, it doesn’t matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same amount of money

PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Doctor’s time, professional judgment, etc. Literally, value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131 Government mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Federal Government regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing!

PG 280 Sec 1151 The Government will penalize hospitals for what Government deems preventable readmissions.

PG 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission-Government will penalize you.

PG 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership and investment. Government tells Doctors what and how much they can own.

PG 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Government is mandating hospitals cannot expand

PG 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can you say ACORN?!!

PG 335 L 16-25 & PG 336-339 – Government mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing

PG 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advanced Plans, HMOs, etc. RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!

PG 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy – Telehealth Advisory Committee. Can you say HC by phone?

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care

Joe Finkle

April 23rd, 2010 at 9:21 pm

Sure, the different versions are all online at the Library of Congress, US Senate, and House of Representatives websites.

They’re a bit hard to navigate, so I’ll post the links below:

Here’s the text of the bill as introduced in the House:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200:

It was referred to the Ways and Means committee. Here’s the official report of what they did to it:
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/legis.asp?formmode=item&number=687

It was also referred to the House Education and Labor committee. Here’s the official report of what they did to it:
http://edlabor.house.gov/markups/labor/health-care/

It was also referred to the Energy and Commerce committee, Oversight and Government Reform committee and the Budget committee. They have not reported their official versions back yet, but you can read the latest versions and see all the amendments and who voted for and against them on the websites for the various committees:
http://www.house.gov/house/CommitteeWWW.shtml

The Senate has not officially introduced any bill yet. They are negotiating the first version behind closed doors.

If you’re not familiar with the details of the process, the Senate will introduce a version and refer it to a bunch of committees who will then report back. At the same time, the remaining House committees will report back. Each house will reconcile their own bills and vote on them. Once both houses have passed a version of the bill, a committee to reconcile both versions will convene and create a single bill. Both houses then have to vote again so they can pass the same bill for the President to sign. The long process leaves a LOT of room for various problems, negotiations, compramises, chances to try to ram things through and sneak them in, etc. For more information, see both the original “how a bill becomes a law” school house rock and also the Simpson’s spoof version. Both are surprisingly accurate to the actual process.

Notice that the links I gave you are not really in printable format with page numbers. Those are places that are useful for looking around and digesting the bill. If you want the straight read through of the 1017 page official bill as initially introduced in the House (before the markups by the various committees), here’s the link:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt.pdf

Note that given the number of words per page, this is really the equivalent of about 600 pages in a book. Still pretty long though, especially in such dense language. When people read it, they generally make heavy use of the table of contents and use their staff to help digest it and point out important parts to them. Too often, important sections go unread, unfortunately.

April 23rd, 2010 at 9:29 pm

Absolutely everything that happens in our government is printed at the Thomas website of the Library of Congress.
http://thomas.loc.gov/

If you want to get straight answers, try to stick to the official websites like the answerer above me suggests. The Opencongress.org site mentioned above, for example, is some group in Dallas, TX called : Participitory Politics Foundation operating off a server at 74.86.203.132. Some of my less educated friends have been getting a lot of email from a woman called Betsy McCaughey who has been seeding email forwarding campaigns with all kinds of really ridiculous things she claims ‘on page # of the bill’ look here! They’re all lies, but things live forever on the WWW.

Deb M

April 23rd, 2010 at 9:45 pm

Your best bet would be the government websites. The health reform bill has not been finalized so what is posted will not be the final proposal.

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